US STRIKES BACK!!

That ain't muslim beliefs.  Thats just stupid beliefs.  Chrisitans do this too you know.

Some of the stuff Muslims get are really not true or over dramatized.

Derillion - I know I may not be presenting my feelings in the best way today... but I don't believe everyone else is either...  I'm sorry that you seem to get annoyed by my opinion..  but I don't believe that violence is always senseless or has no purpose...  I just believe that things aren't always what they seem its my opinion okay...

Revange is just a fancy word for you to kill/steal/torture people.  

2 wrongs don't make a right

My point to be made about all this mess is that they didn't out smart intel. even if they knew they would be attacking us they couldn't decide what to protect. There are way to many places to attack. They hit the WTC to take lives and cripple finances (a job well done) and the Pentagon to cripple our military (not such a good job). We can't go bombing people yet for a number of reasons. If we do and it is the wrong country the entire UN could turn on us. We need the support of the UN before we can do anything. On top of that we need a formal declaration of war that can only be issued by Congress not GW. My point is made.

Yesyes, sometimes collateral damage happens.

But rejoicing over the devastation of a city that has done no wrongs to us that we know of for certain (cir***stantial evidence says that Bin Laden might have done it and that he's probably somewhere in Afghanistan, but we don't know if he's in Kabul or even cares about them) is much like the rejoicing that the Palestinians did over the U.S. tragedies.

Well here's a thought... if they truly do declare jihad on all of us each ana every one of them who are involved can not rest until all americans are dead.

As senseless as retaliation may seem it is indeed necessary. Peace loving attitudes are great for the long run, but you people have to realize - You're SHELTERED. Never have your eyes seen the horror of real life, and the attitudeI'm sensing is "let's all be friends." Well that isn't going to happen; you obviously have no idea what we're up against here.

Look it comes down to this: this is not the first nor the last attempt at our country for these ass clowns to come at us. They will keep trying and trying, so long as we don't put up a fight.

Like Gecko said we haven't stood our ground firm enough for the past 8 years and this is what happens.

I'm sorry to shatter the privelage of suburbia but just realize that before you make too many statements condemning "revenge" and "sadistic intent" that the government is looking way into the future, and not just the past.

On a side note, if you guys were running the country we would have been overtaken already :p

Let's all just clap and cheer as countless Aye - rabbs are slaughtered then.

Forgive me for trying to be the voice of reasonable restraint.  I am simply stating that before we go after someone, we should be sure that we know where they're at and that they are, in fact, the baddies, instead of blindly bombing anything in the Middle East and getting all gleeful about the misfortunes of people we don't even know in Kabul.

I'm half Lebanese, I bet you all want me dead too, eh, since I look like a terrorist or a terrorist's daughter or a terrorist's girlfriend?

here here ice!

No offense, but  Ithink the average age of those posting in this forum indicates very few of you understand the history that is involved here.  This is not the first act of terrorism this is just the worst.

Stop saying "bombng a country"...how many times do we have to say they terrorist factions should be bombed til it gets into your heads?  We bombed libya in 1986...the targets of that bombing were terrorists camps and sites, not hospitals and houses.

and i say it again...if bombing every tent and bldg these terrorists may be in prevents another tradgedy like this in the future than I have just 4 words to say..."Push the red button."

GEcko-san

While counteractions may indeed be necessary, it is important to realize that whoever you decide to attack, you are hurting innocents.

Ice, being Canadian has nothing to do with knowing the 'horrors of real life', and I would be somewhat more satisfied if you and gecko were to stop indirectly insulting the other side of the argument.

you obviously have no idea what we're up against here

if you guys were running the country we would have been overtaken already

I am personally quite offended by these obviously condescending comments, which have little to no relevance in the topic of discussion.

And gecko, 'the average age' is both of little relevance and an insult. I am 17 years old but both mature and intelligent.

I agree that nations need to take counteraction more often than they currently do, but certain attitudes, like 'push the red button' and 'they're just numbers' tend to ignore the most basic of human rights. Whether or not a person or group has done something horrendous does not take away the need for punishment, but one should not be ignorant to the punishment they are pressing upon the perpetrator.

I could care less if they insult you...but those are all true.  You didn't live through the 1972 terrorist disruption of the olympics, the 1986 bombings.  You were what 10 when the WTC was attacked last time...it means nothing to you.  You wern't around for the Camp David accords 25 years ago when the arab nations vowed to never forgive isreal and egypt or the US.  

So you don't have a grasp of what is necessary to comprehend the feelings behind most americans who have been through this.  You have grown up in the age of re-writing history to be fluffy and nice to everyone.  Well it wasn't.  Things have happened to shape this world, things the older group has lived through.

YOu don't have the tools to make judgement about us when it comes to this.

Gecko

I don't have any need to 'comprehend the feelings behind most americans', and I really don't give a damn if I 'grew up in the age of re-writing history to be fluffy and nice to everyone'. I have gone through friends and family dying of unnatural causes. Besides, there is more to judgement than experience. You should not ignore information on discriminatory grounds, it's like racism.

I'm not ignoring any information...on the contrary I am saying you don't have enough information.

GEcko-san

I agree with Xeph with everything he stated.

Thanks Jess

Gecko, then you are stating that my information is insignificant on the basis that I am not an american and I am too young to make a relevant judgement.

Wars are horrible.  I wish they don't exist.

I do understand why some wars happend and can understand.  Civil War for example.  There were reasons for both sides to fight.

However revange isn't one of them.  Espacily so sudden when you don't even know for certain they had a part in it.

If a country had a terrroist attack on them and all of the sudden blamed us and attacked us for revange purpose's even if they don't know who did it would you call it justifiable?

I swear this country is full of idiots who put there country above everyone else but never wondered how others would feel.